Seldom, have I been this disappointed with a game developer

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earthdude
Level 3
1 year ago

I would like to see a list of bugs being fixed in the next update.  

Personally, I have no interest in the content of the new paid DLC (I will probably get it anyway), but there are bugs that have been around since I started playing in EA that have yet to be addressed.

Two that I can recall off the top of my head: Will we be able to actually target two enemies with Acid Splash, for example?  Will lightning bolt no longer go through walls?  While this didn't come up in the main campaign, it did come up in user content: dragon breath also passes through walls.

Skryia
Level 13
1 year ago

Ok, yeah that is fair criticism. No idea what TA is using to track bug reports, but it doesn‘t seem to be working. They never seem to know what they’ve fixed or what’s been reported. Right now, it’s not too big a deal, but it\f they don’t get that in order that will be a growing problem over time.

sarge33rd
Level 13
1 year ago

and...the disappointment continues;


from my OP above:

"When adding ingredients so the party can craft pots and the like. As the builder of a module, I should be able to AT A MINIMUM, mouse over a potions recipe (which must be added so their toons can learn to craft that pot) , hit ALT, and get the ingredient list FOR that specific potion, ie...read the recipe. Otherwise, I need apparently, to memorize the entire set of recipes in Solasta, to ensure that if I want the party to be able to craft potion XYZ, I don't forget to add oddball component G to a chest somewhere. "


Not even addressed in this D.M. upgrade. Apparently we are supposed to play through the game, buy every crafting recipe in the game, and manually compose our own list/recipe book. When the D.M. says "Hold ALT for additional information..." whie the mod maker is in theD.M., this action should OPEN the recipe so the mod maker can read it. Now the modder, knows precisely how much of what, needs to be placed somewhere within the modded rooms/maps, in order to allow use OF the recipe being provided.


This is not a minor thing. I should not have to, along with 173 other modders, manually compose a spreadsheet of the recipes on my own. Nor should I have to change screens so I can GOOGLE to try and find the recipes, the game should have but could not be bothered to have, provided.


When combined with the over priced DLC, granting a new race of 1/2-orc but still using the same humanoid voices (from an orc???seriously??),...yeah...no...just...no.

Skryia
Level 13
1 year ago

If you consider a $10 DLC overpriced, maybe this isn’t for you. At full price plus DLC you’d be looking at $50 total. Right now it’s $30 to because of the half-price sale. You seem to be getting increasingly negative and maybe you’d be happier to just take a break and do something else for a while.

Lovely Gabby
Level 3
1 year ago

What other voices should half-orcs use? They're half orc - half human. So they sound and look relatively human.

Also I do not think the DLC is overprized really seems to be on par with prizes of similarly sized DLCs for other games just this time arround I'm actually willing to pay for it couse I enjoyed the core game and want more.

sarge33rd
Level 13
1 year ago

for what the DLC gives? <$6.00 at most, is what it is worth.


Remember, the paid DLC is 2 classes, a race, and a background. All of which arguably, should have been present to begin with.


As for how i value the DLC...I have ever played a 1/2-orc in any rpg setting, so the addition of that race has absolutely zero value to me.

Nor have I played either a Druid or a Barbarian, in any computer rpg so again, zero value to me.

The wanderer background, is essentially what I build, anytime it is an option. It fits my "play style" well. However, that alone doe snot make the DLC worth $10. A fiver? Sure. A ten spot? Sorry, no.

As for..."but we have to support the devs"...I bought the game on STEAM, had a pissing match with STEAM and uninstalled it. So then, since I still wanted to play Solasta, I bought the game again on GOG. So I believe i HAVE "supported the devs". NW, I need to hold the devs to a higher standard, so we gamers get what we should be getting. And that does NOT mean, for T.A to follow the Paradox business model of paid DLC, after paid DLC after paid DLC, ad nauseum. That path, is the one I fear they are heading down, and that path, is IMHO the wrong.direction.to take.

KingMotley
Level 3
1 year ago (edited)

Well, I'm on the opposite end I guess. I'm extremely happy with a $10 DLC that adds two entire classes, a brand new race, and a new background.  I'd easily pay considerably more if that is what they needed/asked.  $10 per class, $10 per race, $50 per campaign, no problem.

Easily worth the enjoyment I get out of the game.

Quesci
Level 6
1 year ago

Well, I'm on the opposite end I guess. I'm extremely happy with a $10 DLC that adds two entire classes, a brand new race, and a new background.  I'd easily pay considerably more if that is what they needed/asked.  $10 per class, $10 per race, $50 per campaign, no problem.

Easily worth the enjoyment I get out of the game.

I totally agree with this. I came to this game from World of Warships, where a single DLC ship can cost over US$100. Paying $10 for two new classes, a new race, and tons of new content is an amazing deal.

James Mahler
Visitor
8 months ago

So uh yeah I'm happy ya'll are happy with that DLC... But OP's so damn right, 2 classes a race and a background are totally not worth ten whole fun dollars. I mean sure it's not on the same level of price gouging of the infamous horse armor but no this is worth more like $3.99 at most but honestly should be around $1.99. I mean sure they only have the SRD license but this isn't even original content barb and druid are SRD basic, this should have been included day one. Make some actual custom classes hell steal some ones homebrew for all I care, then I'll pay your bloody fees, (same thing with the added race). I honestly think the expectations have been set kinda low.

I know it's a small team but come on. Plus tbf there is a lot of competition in this genre I would have expected the Sol team to try harder (Yes I know game design is hard as shit I've been privy to watching dev logs and the such and the hours just a single person needs to put in) Team Sol needs to put up with competing games such as original sin, pillars of eternity, tyranny, pathfinder and the like on top of the pen and paper game they are constructing this from... Hell last time I checked it I could make a character to play for free and find a game on roll 20. Now I might not get a animated picture and need to find actual people to play it with... But at least I don't need to pay to play a half orc barbarian named Krug. Let me have my Krug.            

Baraz
Level 14
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8 months ago

So uh yeah I'm happy ya'll are happy with that DLC... But OP's so damn right, 2 classes a race and a background are totally not worth ten whole fun dollars. I mean sure it's not on the same level of price gouging of the infamous horse armor but no this is worth more like $3.99 at most but honestly should be around $1.99. I mean sure they only have the SRD license but this isn't even original content barb and druid are SRD basic, this should have been included day one. Make some actual custom classes hell steal some ones homebrew for all I care, then I'll pay your bloody fees, (same thing with the added race). I honestly think the expectations have been set kinda low.

I know it's a small team but come on. Plus tbf there is a lot of competition in this genre I would have expected the Sol team to try harder (Yes I know game design is hard as shit I've been privy to watching dev logs and the such and the hours just a single person needs to put in) Team Sol needs to put up with competing games such as original sin, pillars of eternity, tyranny, pathfinder and the like on top of the pen and paper game they are constructing this from... Hell last time I checked it I could make a character to play for free and find a game on roll 20. Now I might not get a animated picture and need to find actual people to play it with... But at least I don't need to pay to play a half orc barbarian named Krug. Let me have my Krug.

I am not saying you are wrong about tweaking the price, but I cannot agree at all it is simply 2 classes and suggesting 2 USD. 

There are 6 subclasses and some required adding new systems/code.  The Druid Kindred Spirit was notably a lot of coding (admittedly with a few bugs). 

The Barbarian subclasses were 100% homebrew. 

Lower price would make sense though. agreed.


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James Mahler
Visitor
8 months ago (edited)

So uh yeah I'm happy ya'll are happy with that DLC... But OP's so damn right, 2 classes a race and a background are totally not worth ten whole fun dollars. I mean sure it's not on the same level of price gouging of the infamous horse armor but no this is worth more like $3.99 at most but honestly should be around $1.99. I mean sure they only have the SRD license but this isn't even original content barb and druid are SRD basic, this should have been included day one. Make some actual custom classes hell steal some ones homebrew for all I care, then I'll pay your bloody fees, (same thing with the added race). I honestly think the expectations have been set kinda low.

I know it's a small team but come on. Plus tbf there is a lot of competition in this genre I would have expected the Sol team to try harder (Yes I know game design is hard as shit I've been privy to watching dev logs and the such and the hours just a single person needs to put in) Team Sol needs to put up with competing games such as original sin, pillars of eternity, tyranny, pathfinder and the like on top of the pen and paper game they are constructing this from... Hell last time I checked it I could make a character to play for free and find a game on roll 20. Now I might not get a animated picture and need to find actual people to play it with... But at least I don't need to pay to play a half orc barbarian named Krug. Let me have my Krug.

I am not saying you are wrong about tweaking the price, but I cannot agree at all it is simply 2 classes and suggesting 2 USD. 

There are 6 subclasses and some required adding new systems/code.  The Druid Kindred Spirit was notably a lot of coding (admittedly with a few bugs). 

The Barbarian subclasses were 100% homebrew. 

Lower price would make sense though. agreed.

Ok sure fine I did overlook that the subclasses were homebrew I do admit that and maybe asking for a free expansion seems like a little much from a small team only asking $40 USD for base game. I just think we should have gotten more for $10 ya know? I understand we can't have traditional warlock and what was the other one, Artificer? but I would have loved to have monk included in that pack as well with maybe a standing for warlock idk call it someone like Incanter or something like idk Witch? (Not trying to be an ungrateful asshole honestly) I just think we deserved a little bit more if they wanted us to fork over $10. I remember the days were DLCs priced in the double digits either gave you a bundle of content or a straight up mini campaign (that sometimes included extra content) and sure there were times they were priced at maybe around $20 but the developers made it bloody well worth it. If the Dev team wanted unsolicited support with minimal effort then the better option imo would be to set up a donation page, possible with reward tiers. A special title in a discord sever or here on the forms, an insider view on future updates and maybe a chance to talk with the devs on the higher end of the tier ring. Hell why not offer merch? Everyone likes nerd merch. A few t-shirts here, a few plushes there, hell sell the most nerd crack possible... Click clack rocks every ttrpg nerd loves their click clack rocks.       

zas
Level 8
7 months ago

To me, playing this game since early releases, TA is doing pretty good job at fixing issues raised by players, Lost Valley DLC is another step, with a LOT of new stuff, and fairly low rate of issues.
Every DLC is worth, not overpriced for what you get.
I'll continue to sponsor Tactical Adventures, because Solasta is the (simply) best D&D-based cRPG game so far (it beats BG3 on so many points).

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