DICE ROLLS

Baraz
Level 14
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1 year ago (edited)

My recent experience corroborates the loaded dice conspiracy.  I get that the developers say that it isn't.  I even saw a post somewhere that claimed "why would they take effort to even do that" or something to that effect.  But they do have the "karmic dice" option, which leads me to believe they might randomly stack the deck against the party in dice rolls

I'm fairly early in the game.  Just hit 4th level.  Random encounter with Bandits.  

Try #1 went 9 rounds and my party had 3 attack rolls that were over 10.  I didn't keep track of the enemy attack rolls, but they did well because it ended in a party wipe.

Try #2, I kept better track of the attack rolls on both sides.  My party had one attack roll over 10 (Rogue rolled a 19 on a sneak attack).  The bandits only had one attack roll under 15.  Try #2 only lasted 5 rounds before total party wipe.  My wizard only had so many Magic Missile spells which were the only thing that could hit anything.

So, yeah.  While entirely possible within the grand scope of "RNG", it is quite improbable to have one side roll so badly over two different instances of the same battle, while the other side consistently rolls high.  

UPDATE: Try #3 was more even.  Roughly 50% party rolls > 10 and same for the bandits.  Maybe the game realized I had suffered enough punishment and decided to play fair. Ha!]

When you say roll, I presume you mean without the bonuses, so the D20 only.
My original playthrough about 5 months ago was fine, but bugs are possible, especially with the existence of the Karmic Dice option as you said. I suggest you note the last 100 D20 rolls (for your party or enemies).  Add the 100 D20 results and divide the total sum by 100: it should give you an average of 10.5 (more or less 0.5).


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Thaladar
Level 10
1 year ago

When you say roll, I presume you mean without the bonuses, so the D20 only.
My original playthrough about 5 months ago was fine, but bugs are possible, especially with the existence of the Karmic Dice option as you said. I suggest you note the last 100 D20 rolls (for your party or enemies).  Add the 100 D20 results and divide the total sum by 100: it should give you an average of 10.5 (more or less 0.5).

Yes.  Just looking at the base d10 roll (no modifiers).  And good idea.  When I look at Battle #3 (which "felt" normal), Party had 41 rolls, average was 11.1.  Bandits had 30 rolls, average was 10.8.  Pretty normal.  In Battle #2, in 47 rolls, the party average was 6.2.  Bandits average was 16.9 out of 49 rolls.  Pretty off.  But not quite a sample size of 100 or more. 

Baraz
Level 14
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1 year ago (edited)

Yes.  Just looking at the base d10 roll (no modifiers).  And good idea.  When I look at Battle #3 (which "felt" normal), Party had 41 rolls, average was 11.1.  Bandits had 30 rolls, average was 10.8.  Pretty normal.  In Battle #2, in 47 rolls, the party average was 6.2.  Bandits average was 16.9 out of 49 rolls.  Pretty off.  But not quite a sample size of 100 or more. 

16.9 average, on a D20, rolled 49 times, seems more than unlikely.  While it is not strictly impossible, it is like saying the bandits rolled between 14 and 20 almost all the time for nearly 50 rolls. 

Averages of 10.8 and 11.1 are rather lucky upwards... 16.9 is ... out of whack.  Either your math was wrong, the UI was wrong, the game had a bug in its rolls, or it is a super abnormal streak of bad luck.


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1 year ago

Last time I was rolling up characters, the first roll came out to be:

13-13-13-13-13-13

I was afraid I might have summoned a demon.

Velnor
Level 14
1 year ago (edited)

My conclusion, after having played this long is......when you're at really low level, you freak out when things go wrong.

As you progress in level, you don't sweat it, cuz, by now, you know the enemy rolls will be just as crappy over time, and the higher your level, the luckier you get.

Bottom line...you just gottta live to make 5th level.......

feo
Level 5
1 year ago

I've seen more than one character (luckily not mine) die to three 1s. It happens.

9 months ago (edited)

I recently stopped playing this game as well due to the rigged rolls. Its just not fun attempting to play a game dependent on rolls where the computer routinely gives you rolls lower than 10; while routinely giving the AI extremely high rolls time and time again. And when you do his the damage is miniscule while the AI is hitting for for whopping amounts of damage. It makes the fights insanely long, frustrating, unfair, and just plain boring.

And it has nothing to do with light as I tested this in-game and the low rolls were still the same. I'd stop debating the people claiming that the rolls are fine. They are obviously rigged in favor of the AI. Some people just like to to disagree with facts to promote an argument.

9 months ago

You know, this could have been a good game.

But I just got tired of trying to outlast all the million dice rolls to make a hit.

That's just boring.

I feel your pain. I stopped playing recently due to this. And the devs are quiet on how bad the dice rolls in this game are for the heroes. I have Dungeonmastered since the 90s, through about five editions of DnD, and have never seen whiffs like you see in this game. 

Its like the devs decided to troll people who play this game by rigging the overwhelming majority of their die rolls to whiff. I'll be uninstalling this game soon because I can't take the frustration. Its insane how bad this game is.

9 months ago

My conclusion, after having played this long is......when you're at really low level, you freak out when things go wrong.

As you progress in level, you don't sweat it, cuz, by now, you know the enemy rolls will be just as crappy over time, and the higher your level, the luckier you get.

Bottom line...you just gottta live to make 5th level.......

That has nothing to do with rolling constant low numbers. You keep flip flopping on your opinions. The truth is this game is broken and the die rolling is horrible. Being 1st-level on tabletop does not automatically make you rolls 5s, and 1s all of the time. Its NOT the character level. Its the die rolls that are rigged. Period. Its a bad game design and certain people are making excuses for a bad game design.

9 months ago (edited)

maybe SOLASTA is the perfect DM? if i had a player with a ridiculous AC [not saying your AC is ridiculous, i'm just making a point] i might fudge the rolls a bit to hit them for dramatic effect but if they start complaining i'll back off the fudging for a little while.


or maybe its just randomness?  though i had an hypothesis that SOLASTA is honest in its attempts for random rolls, however, all of the other well established big gaming industry companies have been secretly fudging their rolls in favor of the player just to make them feel more special?  if you think about it most gamers are of the "everyone gets a trophy generation"

"Fudging." in this case is simply a fancy word for cheating. You don't "fudge," rolls if you want a fair game. You let the die fall where they may. This is basically like admitting the AI is cheating in favor of the enemies but making an excuse for it.

Then you posit a DUMB conspiracy theory that only makes sense in your own delusional world where "all of the other well established big gaming industry companies have been SECRETLY fudging their rolls in favor of the player just to make them feel more special." The stupidity of such a claim is palpable.

You then end your whinefest by crying about how, according to you, most gamers are of the "everyone gets a trophy generation." Obviously some personal issues you have which have little to absolutely nothing to do with the actual topic.

Its probably best to remain silent if you have something that foolish to say.

WildenSowl
Level 1
7 months ago (edited)

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