Baldur's Gate 3

Jimmhel
Level 5
10 months ago

I found BG3 to be tedious. Character/party control was cumbersome at best, there is just too much clutter, and it reminds me too much of DoS2. So far I am enjoying this one much more. Both are still early in EA, and show plenty of promise. There is no such thing as too much D&D!

PaquoCastor
Level 6
Kickstarter Backer
10 months ago

There is no such thing as too much D&D!

Indeed, that's why I'm looking forward to The Fellowship Saga. Although I do believe tactical turn-based combat makes the best D&D computer games. Like Pool of Radiance, Shattered Sun, and Knights of the Chalice.

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sarge33rd
Level 12
9 months ago (edited)

I found BG3 to be tedious. Character/party control was cumbersome at best, there is just too much clutter, and it reminds me too much of DoS2. So far I am enjoying this one much more. Both are still early in EA, and show plenty of promise. There is no such thing as too much D&D!


exactly. DOS: 3, rebadged BG 3. Had Larian marketed it as DOS; 3, I think not so many people would be disappointed in it. 

This Solasta EA flavor, feels like a table top session. Individual initiative, sometimes your power player goes 1st, sometimes they go 4th or last. lol It all adds to the thrill of the combat and the unknown element when you encounter a creature type fr the 1st time.


silverblade
Level 10
8 months ago

I never played any of the DOS games so I'll just agree with those who did and can compare.  BG3 looks slick.  It's beautiful and the story and characters are well done.  But apparently it has a lot of DOS influence that completely wrecks 5E balance systems.

Advantage in height, explosives everywhere, the ability to eat food to heal (in combat!), backstabbing by just positioning your character in the back...etc are just many of the reasons why the combat system is completely broken.  It's absolutely ridiculous.  Add the fact that special arrows like fire and acid are commonplace, you can cheese your way through the game pretty easily.

They did a lot of modifying of the 5E ruleset and it shows with all the imbalance.  I wish the devs making Solasta had BG3 money.  Then we would see a slick polished world with a faithful rendition of 5E rules in the game.  I'm hoping Solasta becomes a hit so the devs will be able to truly make it shine, making Solasta legendary like NWN and BG1&2.

Wyrmblade
Level 2
8 months ago

The two biggest problem with BG3 is the Story and Companions.

Makes no sense to have Mindflayers when your charakter starts as lvl 1. Your companions are awesome and famous and yet ae only lvl 1-2 when you meet them. 

They are trying to remake bg2 but skipping bg1 wich is what made bg2 work. In BG1 you start as a nobody and a random bear kills you in one hit.


And the Companion they all fell the same Flamboyant over the top flaming Bisexuals. One maybe two no problem but all of them? cmon thats just plain boring. Gimmie back Edwin and Viconia.


Camaraderie, adventure, and steel on steel. The stuff of legend! Right Boo?

Anfindel
Level 8
8 months ago

I was not aware that the companions were either awesome or famous.  The only character I noted in the game that was considered either awesome or famous by Forgotten Realms lore was Volo, who is an NPC and not a playable character. They each have what might be termed "interesting" or "unusual" backgrounds, but I can point to plenty of folks in the real world who fall in that category. And as these are new characters, not continuing cast from BG1 and 2, it makes sense for them to be lvl 1. BG 3 is NOT picking up where it left off, with lvl 20 characters created under 2.0 rules.

As for  the rest, it seems you are the one typecasting them - they are presumably portrayed as they are for romance purposes, as the Developer wants to reach out to as many potential customers as possible - straight, gay, bi and whatever comes between - but none of them are "flaming" as you call it - Asterion is a prime example of what the European Aristocracy were like in both manner and dress - there is a reason they are often referred to as "foppish". I may not be a fan of the chosen personalities, but there is no reason to bring what sounds like bigotry into a computer game.

kanisatha
Level 8
Newsletter Link Kickstarter Backer
8 months ago

They are trying to remake bg2 but skipping bg1 wich is what made bg2 work. In BG1 you start as a nobody and a random bear kills you in one hit.

^THIS. This is it exactly! A perfect way to describe what is wrong with BG3.

silverblade
Level 10
8 months ago

I was not aware that the companions were either awesome or famous.  The only character I noted in the game that was considered either awesome or famous by Forgotten Realms lore was Volo, who is an NPC and not a playable character. They each have what might be termed "interesting" or "unusual" backgrounds, but I can point to plenty of folks in the real world who fall in that category. And as these are new characters, not continuing cast from BG1 and 2, it makes sense for them to be lvl 1. BG 3 is NOT picking up where it left off, with lvl 20 characters created under 2.0 rules.

As for  the rest, it seems you are the one typecasting them - they are presumably portrayed as they are for romance purposes, as the Developer wants to reach out to as many potential customers as possible - straight, gay, bi and whatever comes between - but none of them are "flaming" as you call it - Asterion is a prime example of what the European Aristocracy were like in both manner and dress - there is a reason they are often referred to as "foppish". I may not be a fan of the chosen personalities, but there is no reason to bring what sounds like bigotry into a computer game.

My issue with creating companions that do not have a specific preference is they all sound like they want a romance with your character. It’s annoying when your character just wants a good friendship but the companions keep flirting with you.

Hardcode their preferences, whatever they are. I’m not so insecure that I need my ego massaged in a video game so I need to be attractive to everything. If I fail because the companion isn’t into my character’s gender? So be it. I’ll roll another in a future run if that’s important to me.

When you try to please everyone all the time, you end up pleasing no one. A famous Aesop moral. 

PaquoCastor
Level 6
Kickstarter Backer
8 months ago

They are trying to remake bg2 but skipping bg1 wich is what made bg2 work. In BG1 you start as a nobody and a random bear kills you in one hit.

^THIS. This is it exactly! A perfect way to describe what is wrong with BG3.

Considering how some grognards reacted to Pillars of Eternity, I'm not surprised.

I'm not sure if there really is a game that exudes BG1ness like Fallout "clones" and Fallout-atude though.

Wyrmblade
Level 2
8 months ago

I was not aware that the companions were either awesome or famous.  The only character I noted in the game that was considered either awesome or famous by Forgotten Realms lore was Volo, who is an NPC and not a playable character. They each have what might be termed "interesting" or "unusual" backgrounds, but I can point to plenty of folks in the real world who fall in that category. And as these are new characters, not continuing cast from BG1 and 2, it makes sense for them to be lvl 1. BG 3 is NOT picking up where it left off, with lvl 20 characters created under 2.0 rules.

As for  the rest, it seems you are the one typecasting them - they are presumably portrayed as they are for romance purposes, as the Developer wants to reach out to as many potential customers as possible - straight, gay, bi and whatever comes between - but none of them are "flaming" as you call it - Asterion is a prime example of what the European Aristocracy were like in both manner and dress - there is a reason they are often referred to as "foppish". I may not be a fan of the chosen personalities, but there is no reason to bring what sounds like bigotry into a computer game.

Like i said at the end one or two is ok, but all the char beibg romanceble for everyone. It gives the same wibe to every companion its boring.

In real life you dont get to romance every person you meet. People have preferences.

Lastly European aristocracy, what are you even talking about it was not a thing. Are even talking about medival or renecence? Big difference between like southern italian and swedish.


Camaraderie, adventure, and steel on steel. The stuff of legend! Right Boo?

chiasson
Visitor
2 months ago

I bought the game 3 days ago and I must say that I'm pretty impressed. It continues the franchise very well. My favorite game Dragon Age and so far BG3 is giving me more excitement than I felt playing the Dragon Age franchise. Seems like I will spend all my summer at my father's property in Cannes playing this game.

IXI
Level 14
2 months ago

The two biggest problem with BG3 ...And the Companion they all fell the same Flamboyant over the top flaming Bisexuals. One maybe two no problem but all of them? cmon thats just plain boring. Gimmie back Edwin and Viconia.

speaking of flamboyant bisexuals, while it is great, i was taken a little aback by the dwarves in SOLASTA


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